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#1 Re: Main Forum » Electronics Tutorial? » 2014-01-28 13:10:39
It is just a wiring example, in yours they can spend $1600 and know the combo. My house in the competition took something like $15,000 to know the combo. It takes something like $25,000 now. This is of course if you know the optimal path already
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With the term brute force I meant trying lots of different keys, not tools. Your house does not improve that. You would want the door out of sight of all buttons and behind commit gates that take over $2,000 in tools to escape.
If you look at my example, they actually cannot cut the wire either. The door is powered from inside, and opened by sending power IN. If they cut the wire, they will not be able to open it with a combo
Huh, I dunno how I didn't notice that power in the back. I should do that for future traps that need to be turned "off". Learning new things from every post.
#2 Re: Main Forum » The Contest » 2014-01-28 09:46:41
Yes, Perez beat Carpenter by only $22.
Amazing! Truly crazy considering that the difference in payout is $0.02. Congrats, Perez.
And the difference in the prize of getting the door devil or the gift card.
Though I didn't even have a surviving house at the end of the contest, I enjoyed myself playing this game coming back from v5 (I didn't know what I was doing back then so I couldn't get into it as much). At least now I don't have to feel too rushed to make a new house. I'll just take it slow and have fun messing around with a house of chihuahuas.
#3 Re: Main Forum » FAQ Page » 2014-01-28 09:31:34
It is the number of deaths since your last edit. If it gets too high and you want more people in you can do a quick edit and reset it back to 0.
Ah okay that makes sense. I guess that's also why I kept seeing houses I've visited go back to 0. At first I thought it meant they died and started over, which confused me as to why I saw houses over 5k that had 0 people that came in.
#4 Re: Main Forum » Electronics Tutorial? » 2014-01-28 09:25:03
There have been a few people asking about how to do a combo/pin lock. Here is a very basic example:
http://castlefortify.com/c/968930e
The pin here is 1, 3, 5. If they are pressed and 2, 4, 6 are not pressed, there is a signal sent that cuts power to the door. 1, 3, 5 can be entered in any order, as long as they are pressed before 2, 4, 6. To brute force this type of lock it will take at most (2^n)-1 attempts. So this example will be solved in 63 attempts or less. You will want to have traps to prevent people from viewing the door more than once after entering the code or else up to 6 attempts can be made in one house visit (1 | 1,2 | 1,2,3| 1,2,3,4| 1,2,3,4,5| 1,2,3,4,5,6).
You can make locks that need buttons pressed in order, or have the same button pressed multiple times as well. These become much more difficult to brute force, but also require more difficult electronics that take up valuable space.
You need to change the horizontal wiring into a wired wall, or else they can break the wooden wall above and look at the combination.
Just as a variant that prevents brute force, here's a compact version of what I've used before.
The lock is the same, but they can't simply cut the power for the electric floors or doors due to the powered trap doors also losing power.
electric floors and powered doors are interchangeable, just changes the necessary tools to brute force.
Also, having it against the wall would prevent breaking the wall from the other side for the code.
#5 Re: Main Forum » FAQ Page » 2014-01-27 23:32:11
Q: The white number is how many steps, so what does the red number next to peoples name who have been in my house mean?
Like the house listing, it is how many people died in your house before that robber entered.
I was confused about that too.
I still don't understand since it mainly consists of 0s and 1s for me.
Is it the number that died before that person from when you last edited and/or checked your own home?
#6 Re: Main Forum » Meta-Game and Common Trap Mechanics » 2014-01-27 15:06:15
Being able to see whether a wall is wired or not helps a lot when figuring out when the electric grill in front of you is gonna kill you or just there to scare you. Even if it is powered, unless it's at the edge of the screen, you made contact with a mobile object, or you're about to make contact, it's generally safe to step on it.
Despite me knowing all the information I still get nervous walking on electric grills.
#7 Re: Main Forum » Meta-Game and Common Trap Mechanics » 2014-01-27 13:44:49
Don't know if it's common, but a cheap of making dogs block the exit in a winding hallway is to make it so the dogs make contact after they've gone past a hallway through a window. If they go into the hallway with the dog first then they can get away, but you can prevent some of that by putting something seemingly threatening like the electric grills. The grills don't even have to be powered, as long as they "look" like they're powered. Experienced people will probably think twice going past the window, but it does catch a decent amount of people off guard.
#8 Re: Main Forum » How was I discovered? » 2014-01-26 19:20:39
I had somewhat of a similar case as well. Basically I had 15 doors to choose from, one of which leads to more and more. 15 Choices which repeated 5 times. I lost that house few minutes ago cause I died after being careless being left with no money and tools (My family were dead a while back so I lost all money).
Basic layout:
Grill - Switch - Power Source - Door - Trap (if wrong)
A-B-C-D-E
Robber would stand at position A which would put 3 blocks of space before being able to see whether it leads to a trap or an empty space. I don't doubt the chance that it was complete luck, but one movement was just a little bit suspicious. Basically it would be like a 4 digit combo, where each one ranges from 1-15. I can freely change it whenever, and at the time of the robbery it was 15-5-15-15-12.
The suspicious movement was after going through the first one (15) he went to the very top first, and then moved down 5, making it look like he was counting them. It was the same way I self-checked them, as I'm sure anyone would check that way. Then he ran straight down to 15, ran straight, and then went up to 12 without a single hesitating movement. Of course I don't know if he's actually biding his time making these choices, since you can't see how long people spend on each step in the tapes.
I'm honestly just befuddled more than anything. I read the previous posts regarding what seemed like more complicated contraptions and for more money than mine. So I thought I was prepared for my vault to be cracked by the lucky people but... dang. If it is some form of cheating, then it'd be great to get it hopefully prevented in the future. If not, then I'll just leave it as just tough luck on my part. I did have the same combo for a bit (few hours), but I didn't see the need to change when no one got past the 3rd door even in death. Unless there was a robber that didn't leave a security tape intentionally through the means of client timeout or quitting mid-robbery.
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