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God... what a jerk you are.  Beyond accusations, you even go so far as to try to insult me personally.  Your accusations have absolutely no other evidence than that I happen to own two accounts.  Why don't you leave and go play terminal heist where there is not even a possibility of this.  Otherwise no matter what happens, when you lose, you'll automatically think it was because of duel accounting.  I know for a fact that I won fair and square.

If you read the thread and pay attention to my post and the actual occurrences that took place, you would know there is no cheating.  Everything was well documented.  The fact that I tore the entire house with 40,000 of tools and learned all the puzzles is IN the spirit of the game.  First it was cheating because I robbed the house.  Once the fact that I completely tore the house comes in to play, that everything that happened was well documented, and that it took me over 2 weeks to get the 40k in tools, there is no evidence to support your argument.  As a result, the issue becomes because I own two accounts.  Maybe I put a house up on my friends account because I love this game and hate to see it die?

All I see is that I robbed somebody back fair and square and then the response is to harass and bully somebody and accuse them of cheating.  GET A LIFE.  And then you try to insult my intelligence and attempt to make me feel as though I am some kind of failure in life because of a GAME.  I ask that you cease with these forms of personal attacks.

I know for a fact that cullman owns more than one castle doctrine account.  Secondly, there was an interesting time where he came into the house shown in the video above and solved it on the VERY first try with no tools.  Amazing right? Did I call out cheating?  No I did not because i have NO fucking proof.

It isn't about unfair advantage, it is that my house designs are just superior hands down.

What is your point coming in here and reviving dead threads in order to harass somebody with NO evidence? You just seem like a bully.  I don't take that kind of shit.  Show me the evidence.  Show me that I scout a house and then attack it with a main account because I just DON'T do that.  I actually love this game and have been trying to keep it alive, so I put up a house on my friends account.

The stupidest part about it is that my main account robbery didn't even succeed.  It took me over 2 weeks to get 40k in the vault, so then I decide I should try to rob your house.  I didn't even succeed and, according to you, that is cheating.  Yes, I didn't even succeed and you immediately resort to claiming that it was a cheat.  Honestly, don't you think I would have came in with more money than that if I used duel accounts to seed my main account?

If I did I could easily earn 40k in a few days just by suicide in my own house, so tell me, how is getting 40k in over 2 weeks time so unreasonable?   Somebody comes in with 40k of tools now or later.  You had over 300k to play with, but somebody can easily brute force it with 1 ladder, a couple of crowbars, and a gun?  Not to mention, the house is easy to make progress in without tools, but that is besides the point.

I'm sure we'll see when terminal heist comes out... if Cullman isn't just some troll, because I'm starting to doubt that it is even a real thing.  And when it does come out, I have some pretty awesome houses to unleash on it, which is all I need.  Also, I am a damn good robber so, I'm sure I'll nab a good score and then build a baddass house that can hold a shitload of money. Bring it on.

The more that I do to play objectively fair from my perspective, you always scream cheating.  This is the most fucking frustrating part of playing with you. No matter how far I go to be fair or to go easy on you, everything is always map hacking and duel accounting.

I could have demolished your house when I had the 300k of money, but no, I sat there to see what you would do.  I gave you every possible chance to rob my house and when you did I made a video and was like wow that is great.  Then I decided to rob your house once I had accumulated 40k.  I didn't succeed, but I learned some of the puzzles of the house along the way and after I died in my own self test, I tried to solve it.  Needless to say, the puzzles in the house are too easy to figure out once you have seen them that it WEAKENS the house.  At the end of the day, I bet I would have solved it without tools in a few more tries.

The fact is the house is not difficult and could be easily solved with a few visits of a suicide robber.  All it took me was a crow bar and a gun and I'm at your vault.  That would never fly in one of my houses.  I could have took it there and there was no cheating involved, just knowledge that I had gained of your house during previous visits.  Despite the fact that I didn't take it, because I genuinely wanted to try to solve it without tools, you still resort to baseless personal attacks.

The house was decent against brute force, but it was not great either.  On the other hand, it was absolutely horrible when it came to a tool-less approach because you can solve both puzzles at any time without ANY danger.  The first cat puzzle is too simple because there are limited permutations and you can try as many times you want with NO danger.  The second puzzle is very easy once seen and can also be attempted with NO danger.  Basically the majority of the houses defense can be solved without ANY danger.

I purposefully design my houses so that a robber can't extract any useful information from a visit.  Your house, on the other hand, doesn't even attempt to hide information.  In JWG's house, it was extremely difficult to extract information from the house.  I had to rip the entire house apart numerous times to extract the information necessary to understand the puzzle.  This is the flaw in your house, it is far too easy to understand the puzzles once you've seen them.  My current houses and strategy are beyond this because they are harder to brute force, harder to solve without tools, and much more difficult to reverse engineer.

Here it is for your viewing pleasure!  Note that the house is supposed to actually withstand more but I messed up on the bottom vault rooms.  He had a good shot at getting it either way, but it would have taken quite a few more crowbars to search every potential vault location.  There is 28 different vault rooms from what I can remember, and the minimum hallway path, it would take 31 crowbars in the worse case scenario.  So it would take about 100k in tools to gaurentee victory, if the house wasn't partially broken.  I knew it was a matter of time if I didn't smash the competition, but I really wanted to see somebody rob it. 

I made a replay of the robbery if anybody wants to see it.

Used a ladder to enter, cut all the way around the pits with saws.  Then in the vault area- I had messed up and my lower half vault system was obviously not where the vault was because the cat had not locked it down.  This saved a lot of work because it basically meant half the vault rooms were probably unused.  Passive worked the top vault area and just looked in all the vault rooms.  Half the map is dedicated to potential vault rooms.  Passive came in with about 70k in tools.  Was able to find the vault with 3 crowbars left...

Had I not messed up my map, he may have ran out of crowbars before finding it.

hahaha brilliant.  You got very lucky finding the vault only after you plugged 3 or 4 of the rooms.  There are 26 vault rooms so I was actually hoping it would have taken longer, but it certainly didn't help that I put it in the edges.

Also, I noticed that my house was messed up from the last time I reset it, the lower half of the vault room area was broken, which probably gave you some good hints...

It is funny too because I wanted to come smash your house so many times but I decided to see how long it would take, and what it would take before my money would be stolen...

ps.  Don't die.

I can explain...

Its a double paradox circuit.  One on the top and one on the bottom.  Basically, the top one is off phase.  You can show similar behavior with this

Credit for this goes to Jason in this post http://thecastledoctrine.net/forums/vie … 4714#p4714

Check this out.

http://castledraft.com/editor/DF3mzI

JWG was using something similar to this to power the doors.  Because electricty has cycles, the map has one button has odd cycles and th eother has even cycles.  When you take one power away, the game settles it down to unpowered state; therefore both sides are powered by repeating loops that are offset from one another by 1 in order to create a lowest state of powered.

Okay so the 2nd map, which is more like my current.  The upper part is all tool-detection.  If you use a tool, the door doesn't block the cats so they lock themselves inside the vault areas.  That whole thing is exactly the same in my latest map except I have 3 cats.  The lock is a combo lock where 2 buttons must also be pressed simultaneously.  The lock there is not anything like what I currently am using.  Overall the house is the same but I changed the trap mechanics and the entrance is wider so that the 3 cats all see you while you are on the doorstep.

The house is specifically designed to prevent brute force; however, not designed to prevent against random tool-less suicide attacks.  There is only one dance and it is conceivable that somebody could guess it and walk all the way to the vault.  If you try to cut into the walls to see the lock, there are many dogs and it should also be very confusing as to what dance actually unlocks the bridge.

Which house?  I robbed a few houses yesterday but I did not scout with secondary accounts ahead of that.  Not sure which house you are referring to.

Actually I have 2 accounts but my secondary account was another established house.

All I have to say is it seems like anytime anybody gets robbed they come on the forum and start complaining.  This makes the game look bad.  I happen to have robbed Henson like 4 times, which was one of most challenging houses of all time, with tools 3 times and I discovered the dance and solved it without tools as well, and I always risked my main account to do it.  My point is I know what I'm doing and if somebody came in before me and tried the same shit, maybe that is what your house design is telling them to do.

haha awesome!  I din't know until after I died.

Your house is actually really good and I'm sure it will be awhile before it falls as long as long you are careful.  The thing you want to avoid is if it can be robbed simply with a bunch of saws.  Once the money gets really high then you should get more serious atempts.

  I built my house in a few days and then it accumulated money for about 2 weeks?  I had robbed henson after discovering the dance and then built it up based on the funds I got from the robbery.  I usually die a lot from stupid mistakes.

aha omg

Was santa running people and accidently santa runned gibbings with my main!

And to think I had over 200 saws in my vault.

like this? 

http://castledraft.com/editor/UOvxEv

With an inverted switch, power flows horizontally when the input is not powered.  When the input is powered, it disables.

Power goes left to right and input always is the top.

If you use a regular voltage trigger switch, it is the opposite, power turning on only when power is sent to the input.  Have you looked at the castle doctrine wiki, it has a few electronics tutorials there.

That is my house.  I am sure it did not have 100k yesterday so must have been a bug.  The house has numerous innovations.  As you mention, tools must be used from the doorstep all the way out of the clock floor.  As an added feature, the house detects tool use and locks down differently depending upon if you use tools from the doorstep or not.  Locking system is somewhat obfuscated to confuse robbers who cut into it to look at it.  Either you use tools and it causes the house to initiate heavy lock-down, which will be VERY costly to brute force, or you do the dance correctly.  Once you take two steps on to the clock floor, there is NO other way back than to solve the puzzle.  This doesn't really discourage new lives but anybody with an expensive house would probably not risk the dance even if they saw the lock because there is really no way to test it without completely reproducing the house.