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plz dont put a pause mode in. That sounds so exploitable.

What does the new "safe" look like? I hope it carries the same "sight-value" as the existing one...

ie: "OMG ITS THE SAFE"

not: "omg its the computer terminal.... great"

those designs freelove....

I reckon i have robbed you quite a few times lol they are very familiar

When i talk of multiple account users, Im talking about the guys who use them to farm thousands upon thousands in a very short time frame, usually wrecking low value starter houses in the process, Using a second account (or using a friend) to help scout a little bit or use as a genuine second account for a different house design i think is fine. Even a daily drop of five saws into your main is OK and isnt going to totally fuck the game imo. Its the guys who would take a secondary/tertiary/more account and attain a high bounty by wife/child bashing in starter houses (or even in houses owned by their other accounts) then suiciding in someone elses house leaving sometimes up to 4-5K in some poor bastards starter house which they had just figured out how to solve before hanging themselves in front of the vault and promptly collecting the huge sum with their main account.

Kinda poor explanation of how they do it but u guys get the point, the guy i came across who was doing this, shlam16, was doing it on a massive scale, likely in a more efficient manner than described above. He would then rob other people with this huge wealth by repeated brute force attempts where he could afford to use a tool for every step he took as an extra safety precaution. I feel sorry for the people he cheated this way. After robbing people he sank all his cash into paintings knowing he would be less of a target with a lower value (no point dropping 30k into a brute force to rob a 5k house) and he could raise cash very quickly anyway if he needed to. This guy had the fucking temerity to trumpet his achievements on the forums, conversing with the people he robbed who all congratulated him in good form without knowing they were cheated.

In the end, myself and others proved he was an outright cheat and exploiter of the worst kind, and posted info of his house on the forums until we cracked his house. He then suicided in one of his co conspirators houses after i revealed his vault location but was one tool short of robbing him.

This, specifically, is the kind of behavior that drove people away. This is why starter houses were being trashed, frustrating and angering new players, enraging people with medium to high value houses who returned to a bunch of security tapes of someone who purposefully keeps their value low somehow brute forcing them with gargantuan and inexplicable wealth, yet you have never seen this individuals wealth above 20k.

If i come across this again, I will begin assaulting their house and posting it on the forums because this is a good fucking game, and it has been tainted by deeply insecure people with inflated egos based on falsity. You can blame the design of the game all you want but a viable solution seems nigh impossible, its' way easier to blame 5% of the population for being twats.

The fact that right before in both cases someone with a decent bounty robbed the place.... (so they knew how to get to vault) only to return and hang himself in the door... no way buddy thats more than coincidence.

Perhaps you have just got too much of an optimistic and innocent heart or dont realize the significance of these actions.

Actually, it was 4 attempts total (aside from poking my head in with no tools) AND I did it alone, the information that others provided while welcome, did not reveal anything I either didnt already know or revealed areas of your house that were not needed to be revealed.

It was just a giant conventional double combo lock, with pet herding exercises built into it. Why would anyone try to crack that when it is far cheaper and easier to brute force it like i did?

It can be brute forced for 12.6K but it took roughly 20K to discover where the vault was, which was in a predictable location. One needs to strike a balance between brute force protection and complexity. This was too complex and super vulnerable to brute forcing.

Justice won the day! Let this be a lesson to anyone who thinks they can blatantly cheat and not suffer consequences.

To rob him you would need to brute force him to some extent, you will not be able to beat him with 2k of tools any time soon. too many combo locks, and its too easy for him to change them

Or are you talking about commiting seppuku with an established house/character?

Lord of ham, surely you dont view exploiting using two accounts as a lesser evil compared to cooperative forum robbing?

Two people now have said they have witnessed Mr howard using this exploit.

In fact He has made two brute force attempts against my house now and one can guess hows hes getting the cash to do that easily enough.

We have to take him down... for justice!

Ill be contributing to the map again shortly dustman.

Well Dustman's two pics prove he has done it at least once.

And it also explains his erratic wealth levels

Chills stops them from doing it in their own house more than once a day.

To do it more than once a day they kill their 2nd account in someone elses house which then allows your main account to rob that house shortly afterwards. So they are doing it over and over again.

I always suspected that Mr Howard was doing this, as they way he described he gets his insane amount of riches so fast didnt make sense. He is not the only one though, many people are doing it and I believe it is mainly a side effect of the game slowing down so much now since steam release. After 25K Value, you can count the robber deaths you get per day on one hand. It's too slow and its becoming more like one of those games where you play it away from the keyboard so to speak. And its getting worse.

Perhaps Jason should look at reintroducing the salary system where you earn so much per day on top of bounties. I dont know what the solution is (besides another large influx of players), but it does need addressing.

That is mostly why i want to rob him, threat factor.

And again he is only CFBFJ vulnerable due to his style of play

Why is this outside the boundaries of the game?

One could argue the same for dual accounts, people working together on any level and finding out what your name is etc. What gives you the right to decide what is 'within the boundaries of the game'?

You are entitled to your opinion, mine is as far as i'm concerned he entirely brought this on himself by not keeping a low profile and making it public that he will eliminate anyone who he views as a threat in addition to what i said above about how he keeps his value so low.

This is not the first time someone has been taken down by CFBFJ, in fact it was attempted for the exact same reason last time. The community riled against what they saw as a common threat.

Ill roll out the welcome mat for you Shlam, best of luck to you.

Id also like to add that i believe Mr Howard is about to discover the downside of not keeping a large sum of money in your vault.

Being that you cant afford to change your house in an emergency like this

Ill share what i know as well, heres an update.

http://castledraft.com/editor/dH9rBu