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Did you just die... house not on the list smith still up 20K richer...
JAAM wrote:So what i want to know is how much more is beyond this because i think i can do the first parts but once im into the unknown im gonna be screwed.
So tempted to try just a little gap in my knowledge preventing me from running in now if i had a spare crowbar id run right in.
Just to give you a hint my next run is still gonna need about 10 crowbars....
Just got tool'd up and Mr.Smith is MIA :S
that was me i tried it and what do you know im dead...
i figured i could do it but didn't plan on the second cat puzzle being quite so tricky a second crowbar and i'm pretty sure i could have made it entirely through what has been shown with the materials i had...
So what i want to know is how much more is beyond this because i think i can do the first parts but once im into the unknown im gonna be screwed.
So tempted to try just a little gap in my knowledge preventing me from running in now if i had a spare crowbar id run right in.
Dang i peek at the list and 2 of the major houses are off and what do i know passive has gone and done it again.
now dont die in a self test dammit.
@matthias i kept looking at that house scratching my head knowing how it works and how it has to be done but still just confused enough on how to do it. enough meat a crow bar a ladder and some other basics probobly would have dealt with that trap and i hated the idea of losing my house too much to give it a shot. I fucking hate that chihuahua for some reason i always felt like it mocked my failure.
wait nvm wrong house.....
I hated that cat that cat mocked my failure. I did feel close once on that then relised there was actualy a magic dance as i died miserably
Just got a funny video of some poor soul trapped on a set of 3 panic buttons with 39 dogs surrounding him. ran back and forth for 150 steps.
AMWhy wrote:Only Eppfel has passed the first trap correctly (how you worked out the correct route, I'll never know).
The cat gives you a good idea and I came in with a crowbar once, I thought I had left a tape?
$200k
I think my explanation of the entrance is far from easy and due to a recent copycat
, who let himself get robbed in order to understand cat movement. Here is something visual:
http://i.imgur.com/ZiKMZ03.gif
Btw, what are you waiting for, guys???
Dammit eppfel you and your attempts to snare me.
NO I WILL NOT GO INTO THAT DEATH TRAP
JAAM wrote:I think there is a bit more activity going on than you and I there have been at least 3 new houses go up recently and all at least 2 of them were put together like the people were new, one was just someone spamming walls and hiding their vault in it... I try not to brute force a house unless i can do so with under 2K tools and once i do so it teaches them something about their design. found 3 houses that can be cleaned using only a brick and a club
And with all this robbery and santaing my house is remaining untouched because those that go in never take a second step, they just figure the house is broken, or know it isnt worth trying.
im so confused i went into one of teh brick and a club places but my value dropped by 2-3k from tools i think. Did i just mistakenly buy a crowbar to go club a dog?
:S Ouch I have you valued at 4k. Also just lightly bruteforce a house that was kind of broken. Took (after a quick nose showed a broken dog and dead wife) 4 meats and 3 saws just in case. Ended up just using 2 meats, feel a bit dirty for doing it now, but i haven't the courage/time to have a go at one of the top houses.
yeah i think i must have taken a crowbar in either way someone came in a few min later and dropped a 1.3K bounty so im getting that cash back fast enough. The few that try my house are typically established enough to have a nice bounty and almost always underestimate my design.
Just bought several thousand more in dogs... what am i doing with my life?
Someone keeps scouting my house and dieing in the most ridiculous repetitive ways...
Got some new art Dogs, Membrane, Disintegration, and Dead End. ![]()
JAAM wrote:Passive wrote:Yea i had been in you're previous house before setting up this one so i knew that the middle of the house was packed with dogs so chose to go there last if i had to.
It is an out and out theft of Eppffel's design, and the reason is i couldn't figure out how to complete it so i first had the safe the other side of the door and then just watched videos of people robbing me to see what the cat did
I also wanted to replicate the next few sections of his house that i have on my map, but as i can't complete them wouldn't be able to self test (took a long time of building before that dawned on me
)
Well i hope you enjoyed some of my viedos mixed in there. That is a decent idea if you want to get someone elses opinion on how to break a house set up a similar design and watch them.
The santas are busy this morning. I now own $5500 i think today is going to be a good day.I have stopped picking up free houses and Santas for now as don't really need the money, however i do still have a look around the houses. Don't wanna end up being one of those people stuck in their ivory towers. Yea i just saw your value increase, leaving it for now as we seem to be the only actives
I think there is a bit more activity going on than you and I there have been at least 3 new houses go up recently and all at least 2 of them were put together like the people were new, one was just someone spamming walls and hiding their vault in it... I try not to brute force a house unless i can do so with under 2K tools and once i do so it teaches them something about their design. found 3 houses that can be cleaned using only a brick and a club
And with all this robbery and santaing my house is remaining untouched because those that go in never take a second step, they just figure the house is broken, or know it isnt worth trying.
im so confused i went into one of teh brick and a club places but my value dropped by 2-3k from tools i think. Did i just mistakenly buy a crowbar to go club a dog?
JAAM wrote:nahh its fine ill just have to find ways to add more dogs in those areas, before you another guy came in clubbing about 5 and screwing with the positions of every other one before killing my wife (and dieing) so you should have met more resistance. You also took an unexpected rout. If you had done things the normal way (the way everyone does it tooled or not) you couldn't have done it with the materials you had. Either way i have enough spare dogs lying around to fix the damage since that was the whole point of this, Rob me but once you do i can change the whole layout of the house for next time.
You are John Richard Milo and i hate your house. using epffel's design of cat dance. your addition of that commit gate prevents me from trying more often...
probably going to score when one of these people looking to scout out my 0$ house gets killed poking around a bit too much.
Yea i had been in you're previous house before setting up this one so i knew that the middle of the house was packed with dogs so chose to go there last if i had to.
It is an out and out theft of Eppffel's design, and the reason is i couldn't figure out how to complete it so i first had the safe the other side of the door and then just watched videos of people robbing me to see what the cat did
I also wanted to replicate the next few sections of his house that i have on my map, but as i can't complete them wouldn't be able to self test (took a long time of building before that dawned on me
)
Well i hope you enjoyed some of my viedos mixed in there. That is a decent idea if you want to get someone elses opinion on how to break a house set up a similar design and watch them.
The santas are busy this morning. I now own $5500 i think today is going to be a good day.
nahh its fine ill just have to find ways to add more dogs in those areas, before you another guy came in clubbing about 5 and screwing with the positions of every other one before killing my wife (and dieing) so you should have met more resistance. You also took an unexpected rout. If you had done things the normal way (the way everyone does it tooled or not) you couldn't have done it with the materials you had. Either way i have enough spare dogs lying around to fix the damage since that was the whole point of this, Rob me but once you do i can change the whole layout of the house for next time.
You are John Richard Milo and i hate your house. using epffel's design of cat dance. your addition of that commit gate prevents me from trying more often...
Just killed 2 people trying to rob my 0$ house because they thought the layout may still be
And now im back at 3.3K just enough to attract some low scale thievery :D
House is up to stay now. Mostly Mobile with the end made of a few halls and doors to prevent the effectiveness of scouting (could view answer in 1 go) and a classic dog required commit to stop people from screwing with things (cough cullman cough).
Also was extremely happy to see another house pulling my same start up of 4-6 dogs and 2 buttons feel like I finally have something that I can trace directly to me (I'm sure similar thoughts and plans existed but I think this one can be considered mine
). Scored a 3200 bounty erlier so I'm taking that as a testament to the design strength(non tooled) So many dogs partially hidden creat very funny videos of people coming in with 20-30 meat only to find they are committed and my house hates life.
I think I'm gonna start something though. I am no longer going to sell meat clubs or guns and use them to record stats about those marvoulouse people with the guts (or lack thereof) to enter my house with such items
House is up to stay now. Mostly Mobile with the end made of a few halls and doors to prevent the effectiveness of scouting (could view answer in 1 go) and a classic dog required commit to stop people from screwing with things (cough cullman cough).
Also was extremely happy to see another house pulling my same start up of 4-6 dogs and 2 buttons feel like I finally have something that I can trace directly to me (I'm sure similar thoughts and plans existed but I think this one can be considered mine
). Scored a 3200 bounty erlier so I'm taking that as a testament to the design strength(non tooled) So many dogs partially hidden creat very funny videos of people coming in with 20-30 meat only to find they are committed and my house hates life.
I think I'm gonna start something though. I am no longer going to sell meat clubs or guns and use them to record stats about those marvoulouse people with the guts (or lack thereof) to enter my house with such items
Mr. Stahl has fallen and someone new has risen in his place. Good game to the man with the wife dog commit stuck my head in a bit too far there. think my bounty was a few thousand as the guy has it back up for 3300 with only 1100 in it to begin with, and after a few changes im sure.
RIP my starving dogs.
Will change the config of this new house once i have enough money for now im sticking to the basics of ehh dog commit people will stay away or bring so much meat its not worth it (only 10$)
Well if I had the cash to get in and out alive I would but if I died who would feed my dogs? I know enough about the place to consider trying it but it's just not enough.
And im dead after poking my head too far into a wife commit trap... should have seen it coming but still Good luck to whoever you are seeing that you took yourself off the list instantly and havent come back.
Did rob someone after guessing a random magic dance these things are getting too predictable. and have a new mobile house up.
@AMWhy i do like your dance easy enough but at the same time very funny to try I do wonder what lies behind that door...
lol it was a good video nice try mate. ill have to add in some more doors or something. i dont actualy know that much about pet movement just the mobile stuff so i figured id put this together and if some one completed it i could always change the location of the entire house for free. there is one thing you are missing though. there are two more solutions you never even saw... you never got near my vault ![]()
yikes overlooking the video using 2 meat and 2 clubs you can lock up every dog on that final chase though. that might get messy. Fixed that up pretty easy though MORE DOGS YEAH.
My biggest concern is that im sure people are entering my house but they never take the first step so i dont get a tape so i can not be sure...
So far this house has yielded my favorite tapes for clever tool use random stupid deaths and hopeless back and forth delaying of the inevitable.
Watching these videos is almost like testing my house from a non risk point of view i can see what is accessible without ever testing it. see new potential vault locations and check out where more dogs can fit ![]()
I just took a peek inside the door. It looks refreshing! Your name is Chad Arthur Stahl.
i noticed you took a quick peek in glad too hear i was trying to think of something that was not a combo-lock, magic dance, or some strange commit gate that you had to do cross in a strange fashion. and since most heavier electronics still baffle me i figured might as well invent my own new trick!
Just did the calculations over 8040 in mobiles alone ![]()
Resetting the vault location is funny too because there is so much variety with this that it can go anywhere that as soon as someone checks a location ill switch it up and now they have to check even more tiles!
Run out of money to replace with chihuahuas for testing i'm going to die very very soon.
Ahh some one just had such a nice attempt got to explore 2 of the three doors instead of the usual it took him a club a gun and 5 meats before he went down. i hope to see another try from this good sir!
So right now i have a house design up and it may be something i go back to from time to time. a house made entirely out of mobiles with a few blocks added to block vision in some areas. The great thing about this though is that even after robbery i can change the whole layout into something very strange and new. it is a fluid house! for all you people out there trying to find it is mostly comprised of 2 panic buttons and about 6 dogs visible from the entrance. while the whole scheme is a bit more complicated i think it's fun to have such an open layout that is still so confined. i have enough resources built in that it is 2k proof and contains 30 total non mobiles for a very open and visible design. and if it ever gets solved i can take half the house and move it anywhere i want to without any consequence. the only weakness is the permanent damage of clubs (still 2k proof for the 2 people that brought in 10 clubs only to find that killing dogs doesn't help you in my house.) it even features mobile commits.
so now i want to see your designs using only mobiles and under 50 blocks that can be rearranged to any configuration for under $100
House just hit the 3000 range i don't believe it will stand much longer... waiting for the clubs to come raining down...
bought more dogs to repair inevitable club damage. 1800
I reveal so much of the solution of the house and you still waste so much money on the red herring. Let's prevent that in the future:
The Floor of 1000 deaths
The way southwards is a feint, although I designed the electric floor solvable. I dislike electric floor traps. They take a lot of space and normally can be surpassed easily. It is the first I ever build and although it is a fake, I took special care in designing it. First you have to solve it correctly in order to surpass the trapdoor. Second, the dog moves vertically and horizontal. That makes it harder to figure out the solution, because the toggle switches can not be turned of again.
http://i.imgur.com/TT0iYRS.png
I think 90% of the money the house makes, comes from this trap. If the house had just the door in the beginning, nobody would even die in there.
I just give it a go when i have already screwed up the first part and am on a suicide run, i guess i could try over and over to figure out the first part but part of me really doesn't want to because then i'd be invested enough to do nothing but try over and over again until i finally cracked the whole place and i don't want to be that obsessed over one house.
You are now Richard Marion Scales.
Not anymore i fell to a trap i should have seen coming in anthony raymond austins house.
its easy enough to circumvent but i just wanted to poke in and out without tools, and should have seen it coming.
I do hope he enjoys my rather sizable bounty. do try to resist claiming it because i would like some revenge.
damn just robbed a guy and got killed in a vision test because i forgot that i armed one of the traps and then just ran around all over the place... whoops.
Have a moderate house up and my wife displayed behind pits and glass with a dog on top of her after some idiot decided to drug it club her while she was standing on it then try to claim the cash.
worth around 880 and i was cussing up a storm thinking that i had gotten myself killed in that self test not particularly deadly but i though i had trapped myself somewhere in there.
JAAM wrote:ok strait in and out so i could check the paintings and you are Dean James Way.
D J Way, i like it
Lol placed a Chihuahua in my house to place hold a pit bull and its amazing. a very similar house design and what does everyone do? they pick up the Chihuahua to see if they need it somewhere in the future!
What's my name?
Edit: I have also clocked up some decent wealth now. Had a few profitable scoutings but a couple only broke even but i had used tools already so wanted to get to the safes regardless
Would like to reinvest some of the money but really don't wanna self test
Ill figure it out for you when the server stops being so shaky i nearly died in a self test from a disconnect -.-
ok strait in and out so i could check the paintings and you are Dean James Way.
Keep stopping myself tooling up and going for another house. No one has seen any of my house yet so don't wanna die, but getting bored of waiting
It might be worth it, my run on mickens house i came in with (about i forget the exact values) 10 guns 5 clubs 25-30 saws 20+ meat 16 bricks and just barely made it, thinking more than once i just ****** myself over by bricking that Chihuahua only to have that dog move out of place. Cleaning out the place sure was satisfying and my first successful large scale robbery (used more than the measly 2k to crack the place and get out alive.)
is there a new mickens out there? Steven A. Christie has a smilar safe by the door preplan going on with some lights suggesting trapdoors and electric flooring similar to mickens' old design i was rather hoping the guy would throw up a small defence then fix his house back up but i think he may just be trying to make a new reincarnation.
oh and passive dont die i just figured out which house is yours and want to take a crack at i later (with sufficient funds).
At least you get you wife back
Yep and a new house after I did a small bit of robbing this morning. Not near as good as the old one and a good robber (or even someone with half a brain) could figure it out with some small scouting trips and a few minor tools. May just use it to gather enough funds to kill some broken houses and clean up the list or I may turn it into another small fortress. My biggest irritation is the fact that my bounty never went somewhere nice. I wish self test deaths sent that money equally to all the houses.
And Passive strikes again. It took 12k of tools, some saving and almost dieing in some ridiculous stupid ways in 2k houses. But i have came and collected my bounty that i left in your house a couple of days ago. I am sorry to not come tool less, however i tried several times 2k scouting before building my house and i just couldn't seem to remember how i was dancing, with a lot of the time i died in the same way. If you watch a video i also think i found a massive flaw in the design, traping the dog the next lot of trapdoors just stayed shut (i laddered them just to be safe), it also meant i could just walk over the electric floors, (after wasting 2400 on all those cutters in the run before).
Edit: Actually tempted to give some of it back, i have no house design lined up and don't wanna just do my combo lock one :S Its that or wipe my current house and start again with the money, because the current design takes up loads of house but isn't really fit for purpose was just a way of saving up some money to get my bounty back
Edit: 45 mins later and i have finished building, now to do all the safe checks before the self test.... I blame this on you JAMM for giving me the money
Edit: another 30 mins and the house is now live, took so long
Welp its all over i was messing around on the mobile app and died in a self test when i panicked over my connection going down. I never even got to see the tape. I will pay a visit later tonight otherwise FREE HOUSES!
I am sorry good sir but you forced my hands tonight i burst into your house killed a dozen or so of your pit bulls shot your wife and robbed your vault (that was a very nasty design flaw to be honest).
You see i did not do this out of sheer stupidity and was quite surprised to learn i broke (almost) even from this endeavor this was a story of revenge. When i burst into your house i all i wanted to do was to kill your wife and any remaining family just like you did so long a very long time ago. When you came in you killed every dog i owned and wrecked as much as you could. I spared half of your dogs out of some twisted form of forgiveness your wife did not get the same fate. She was shot and your son was clubbed. i took the vault as a little extra reward so i could not go too heavy into debt over this endeavor. I am sorry to leave you penniless broke and with a giant hole in your defenses but you ought to be able to patch some things up eventually just like i had to.
P.S. please post a screen shot i forgot to take one. And next time don't spend 3000 to kill a wife and a kid only carrying 900 and crippling a house in the processes people don't like that...
It really is funny all these people trying to drug my dogs and cut through my walls when the easiest way is to just do it without tools. you don't need to know too much. its a pretty strait forward magic dance that many people already know. the fun part is the dog that everyone drugs or kills or somehow lands in a pit (that was a strange but fun video). and every single time these people that try to use tools die, the same horrendous death the death of stupidity. It's not what they do that kills them it's what they assume.