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Even more pitbull stacks? Think of the poor too, please!

Not to mention that it would simply make things even worse. Think of those missions in other games where you have to escort someone entirely harmless and defenceless! Don't you HATE those missions? I do.

You can compare the fact that they usually attack a dragon with bare hands to the theory that defending your family is a task I imagine most people simply doesn't want to bother with. In my last robbery (and I play defensive lately) I stumbled upon another wife on the doormat with $750. By making their defence compulsory, the game would be much worse, as it would shift the focus from the vault to the wife. Which means that everyone would be stacking pitbulls like crazy. You could not afford to protect your vault, cuz' you're so scared to protect your wife. Which would end up in more successful robberies. And since most people have their money's worth in tools, after the vault is broken, you would be pretty much forced to suicide.

What about simply choosing weather or not you want to be married? I'm not married, but I still have some money (not much though, please don't rob me). Why can't there be single guys out there?

Once that happened, we could just see how many players have opted out from having a family, and if it's a lot, than perhaps more change needs to happen, and if it's not so much, than I'll shut my mouth/fingers (until I find something else to whine about, ha!).

Again, if I want them to be gone, they will be gone in a few robberies. I agree that it's arguable weather or not I actually want them, but as far as I can see, not having them is a viable tactical option. So if I choose (and I can) not to have them, they will be put on the doormat. Always. Can I please skip that? It breaks my online heart.

Guysguysguys!!! I've got it!

I mean, I'm not Jason, and he's probably massively tired of people suggesting things but...what if you COULD put your family behind hazardous objects after all?

Of course, if they end up dying as a result, you would have to live with the consequences, and stare at your dead wife in a trapdoor you built yourself.

You still shouldn't be able to box them in behind walls/pits. An additional script may be added, that they will prefer a non-hazardous path if there is one, but if there isn't they will choose the shortest one, even if it's filled with electric floors.

This would add both more depth and more freedom to the game. If I don't want the family, I can just let them die, and not worry about them later, or I can just safely put them next to the vault.

If I want them dead, they will die very soon anyway, since I have the freedom to put them wherever! So that won't change, but the headache will be gone. Maybe you could choose between being married or non-married when you start, to cut the whole story short?

If you do want to make use of the wife's ability to save half of your cash, you can now build a proper path to protect her instead of a stupid pit-bull phalanx. It would also make it possible for poor players to defend their family, and not force them to choose between a bait for robbers, or safety.

Honestly, I know that I'm not a particular person to be proposing things, but...I don't see why this would not work.

Why? Seriously, this game is merciless, nothing wrong with that, but after about a week of finally learning how to play safe, test safe, scout safe, a silly error message kills my progress? FFS, I paid good money for this game!

And no, I didn't touch the game-folder.

Care to explain how?

Commitment pitbull: 320
Shotgun/another pitbull: 320
Anything decent to protect your vault+walls, wires etc: 1000
Money left for bait: 380...which means no one will ever risk dying in your house.

And I can guarantee, some dick will dodge your wife (in case you're using a shotgun) to club your children on their way out, and we're back to where we're started, your safety is compromised.

I'm not convinced. Until your family is all dead you're never safe from $2000 robbers. My house was finally safe from those guys, only to get my daughter killed and mess the whole thing up.

The way I see it:
Working class: You can't afford their protection. When you have $2000, a shotgun or a pit bull is probably more than what your wife will be carrying.
Middle class: Now you can afford their protection, but you've also became a cheesy target for robbers, and you will have to split your money between guarding 2 separate routes. Not good.
Rich: You can absolutely stack a phalanx of pit bulls in front of them, but they are still more a liability than it's worth, and the "wife line" also takes up expensive space.

Also, I think this pit-bull thing is lame. They are the only protection for your family and well...that just sucks.

Before you can afford that pit-bull army, they are simply a liability, and if one of them gets killed, your safety is compromised. You will also have an open route which encourages scouts to explore, only to be forced to flee once they see your doggies, instead of poking their noses into a house where commitment traps await them after step 5 or something. You see my point?

Yes, it's possible to keep them alive if you're soaking rich, but not before. But before you become rich...I guess you're not rich? Which means they can be killed, which means they make your whole house unsafe and exploitable. And you still have to split your money between 2 separate paths.

Thank god at least one person agrees . I was expecting veterans to throw stones at me and explain how it's very possible indeed to protect them. But the only possible protection is: Pit bull commitment trap+pit bull stack in front of them+shotgun. But that costs a lot of money, money that's better spent on protecting your vault.

It was a noob-home, just somebody got there first. All it's made of were 4 commit gates, but you could see behind one of them that there was a vault there, but you couldn't see if it was empty or not.

Edit: I've just realised that a build with a repeating off-off-off-on cycle might be simpler, if it can be done, that's great too!

I just did the "megarob" thing...let's just say someone is veeery angry now . I used the money to build a fortress, and I keep the tools for bait, and wait until I suck some cash up! A guy with a bounty worth 600 already made the terrible mistake of crossing me! Muhahaha!

Thanks for the advice guys! This makes things much easier!