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Alright my turn to weigh in.  Don't expect anything interesting or fancy: I've already bent my d!#* halfway back over on itself trying to regulate this discussion and put some "forum chills" on it.  I feel that I've done that enough and my service to the community in that regard is sufficient.  I feel the same of many other players on the "List."

To defend myself, I have one account, and I have always had one account.  And I have never argued or proposed that 2 accounts gives no advantage over 1 account.  Duh, it totally does.  I just don't care about it all that much.

I read a ton of articles and watched a ton of interviews about the game the day that I bought it, and I got myself on board with the philosophical and creative spirit of the game from day 1.  Because of this, I have:

- Never expected the game to be fair
- Never expected the game to be "pvp-balanced"
- Never expected the game to be fully regulated within moral bounds
- Never resented Jere, Iceman, or JWG for having up to a year's lead time on me playing the game, resulting in tons more knowledge and skill, 1337 electronics skills from peering deeply into the source code, and basically the ability to cut my d!#* off 3 times over.

Do I think it's a little bit p*ssy?  Yeah.  Am I a card carrying supporter?  No.  Would I do it some day?  Well, yeah I guess, probably only if I had a specific objective though.

ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOO!  F yeah, +1000 points, MMaster you never fail to crack me the hell up.  Stuff like the above is basically why I made my own post questioning the legitimacy of our dual account discussion.

Now moving on, I was a little annoyed to see my name and a bunch of other peoples' on some "List."  But I did read your whole post.  Actually, after I thought about it, you know what, good for you.  I give you my warrior's respect for having the guts to call all of us out directly, and then to fight with your well-organized opinions.  That was pretty cool, and definitely in the spirit of the game.  Additionally, as a result you should not be surprised if this thread has gotten a little impolite or heated- that is what is going to happen when you make a post of that nature.  I did defend myself, stating that some of the premises on which myself and others were challenged are not accurate to what we have said in previous discussions.  But your post has validity and I like the way you organized your information and structured your arguments.

Your perspective is.. a perspective.  It is one of the perspectives on the situation and there is some validity to it.  Part of the main idea to my post was that we all see the game world "through a glass, darkly," and that all we can do about some things is hypothesize, generalize, and poorly synthesize information, and make conjectures.  If the real objective reality of the game right now, as seen by God/All-Seeing, All-Knowing Chaos Entity From The 7th Dimension is that this situation is actually hurting the game a lot and shrinking the player base, then I would hope for it to be fixed or changed.  The game is balanced and playable enough for me and for my purposes.  All I really care about as far as this goes is Jason- I used to victimize all of you on here with my griefing runs, often hitting 20-30 houses a night.  I expect this game to be brutal and unfair to players.  To continue, I respect Jason a great deal both as a designer and a person.  I am thankful to him for the creations he has brought forth into reality and enabled me to play with, and his honesty, accessibility, and absolutely outstanding quality of service.  He absolutely should have a "financial interest" in things, and no one should try to fault or limit that in any capacity at all.  I am highly offended at the entitlement of players who even begin to voice the argument that "Jason won't do anything because he gets paid either way, blah blah blah," and demand things hand over fist.  This man has gone far above and beyond the call of duty in serving his player base, and continues to do so.  He has designed these great products that we can sit behind our monitors with and escape our own realities for hours and hours on end.  $16 for hundreds of hours of entertainment is a f***ing smashing amount of value inside a product.  A movie costs $10 in some cities, and that nets you about an hour and a half for an emotional escape.  And Jason's game isn't just a buzzy, distracting click-fest of an online title.  Think of the emotional rushes this product is capable of delivering to you, and on a repeat basis.  People coming from this angle really need to step down, stop being blinded by their intensely moralizing, highly disconnected perspective, and get real about concepts in the real world.  We've been delivered a colossal amount of value for that $16, and if someone fails to see that in real-world terms, they are very ignorant, and highly entitled and childish.  "I demand that you entertain me, as and how I want that entertainment to be delivered, forever and ever and ever!  Now!"  Such is the nature of the wounded child in the digital age.  So in conclusion, if this situation is objectively hurting Jason's ability to sell copies and be compensated deservedly for his time and energy expended in design and service, I would hope he does something about it that benefits him.  But that's really all the further I care.

Tangential intro: Yes, there are people with 3 accounts.  I personally have 1.  But I am aware that people exist with 3.  I have no idea how many, but some are definitely there.  I know this with certainty.  I don't feel a great desire to do it, but it still doesn't really bother me.

Amen.  That's right, it is what we need.  I find it very useful to the conversation right now.

Amen.  First, I agree.  I feel this way about the situation myself.  In fact, your conclusion pretty well sums up how I feel most times a potential imbalance issue arises.  Second, just thanks for writing this.  It's cool that you use what I'm guessing is a research background in service to the community.

MMaster's post makes some serious sense.

LOL Blipception!

To your 2nd point... Holy God.  If you'd rather have 40 accounts than 20, I'm your man.

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INCEPTION....

You shall not harm Harry Potter!

Edit: *Blip

Come on now, come on.  Stefan, I've always been very cordial to you on these forums.

This person legitimately asked for other peoples' moral perspectives on the game.  The above is mine.  He divided the community along certain lines.  My response was, given the behaviors he identified, that I would divide those categories on differently described lines, and that was my moral perspective.

This is an ffa/pvp game and aggressive behaviors are what evolve it; we should not judge them selectively or frown upon them.

Now can we please take the dual account discussion which is all the rage these days to a separate thread?  Everyone's points are valid here but at the same time the OP made his thread about something different.

LOL!
A dead noob, that's what.

2014-03-18 23:22:37

2014-03-19 04:58:57

Emotional, compulsive personality is emotional and compulsive.

2014-03-22 04:02:23

2014-03-23 03:22:38

Also,

The thing that I have said, is not a true thing.

A truly excellent work of poetry.