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Lol. People keep going into a pit that isnt even placed/designed to be part a trap, rather designed to be a "non-vision blocking wall".

I don't know why. Have lots of "3 step/4 step Deaths" from that obvious pit there. Do they Think its a floor there?

Turnout8: Yes it can be a great trick. But does not work for the careful people because if you are just careful you will notice the Electric floor does not turn off after releasing the switch.
Its then better to have a loooong Electric floor path and then sticky switch in the end. If the person uses Tools on the self-locking Power source, then it becomes a "normal" commit gate. But if he forgots, it will COSTs tousands of Money in water to disable the whole path.

Redundant Power supplies. You can have 2 or more Power supplies connecting to the switch.

You can also have the switch be wired to a Voltage switch, that is connected to itselfs output and trigger, and then a Power source on its input. Once the sticky button is set, the voltage switch locks into Place permanently, and only way to defuse it is to short BOTH the Power supply to the sticky switch AND the voltage switch.

It might not be a Clock Circuit. It can also be some animal that made Contact with you, without you noticing, and now pursuing or leaving you, behind a wall, until you step on that Electric grill, and then the animal at the same time step on a switch that activates said grill.

Once you made Contact (see) a animal, the animal will behave as it Always see you, even through walls, doors, and such. (The logic explaination of this can be that the animal smell or hear you through the wall)

Theres 2 ways to defuse a "rigged" Electric grill thats not a Clock: Either use wire cutters and water, but that requires knowing exactly where the entry Point is (eg the Point at "next step it will kill you")
Or you will need to find the way the owner deactivate the grill with (so it don't activate same second you step on it or are halfway through). It can be some hidden button somewhere, codelock, or you need to step on a specific tile (lets say, you need to move into a dead end even through you know its a dead end, its like a "hidden switch" - because a animal behind the wall is deactivating the trap for you) or whatever.

Some things might even need to be carried out in the right order, else a animal is killed which will then not be able to deactivate a trap later on the path.

Remember that the owner must make it to the safe without Tools, so all traps can be "defused" without Tools. (except for red herring traps, that Always activate and cannot be "defused" without tools, but red herring traps is just red herring traps and reaching a red herring trap means you did pick a wrong route where theres multiple routes to take)

Note also that animals and Clocks can be combined, making "timed traps" that require you to move perfectly into the trap (with the least amount of step possible), else the Clock times out and you will Always be killed on that Electric floor.
See it as a "time limit", eg if you dont make it into the trap in time, then you will never make it through.
(Note that "time" in the game is not in seconds or minutes, rather "time" when talking about Clock Circuits, is step-based (and tool based), each time you take a step or use a tool the Clock goes "1 step" forward.)

This can make some houses nearly impossible to force with Tools, since Tools increase the "time" it takes to reach the trap or vault in question.

Reality: You can use that trick to your favor: Make that single Power source run a trapdoor blocking access to vault. Thus shorting that Power source will make access to vault more difficult.

I Think your'e doing wrong.
It was my first mistake too. I struggled with the starting houses and didn't advance, did try go out robbing with 2k in Tools in hope of scoring bigtime.

Until I found out the trick: Buld things that looks harmless but activate and become harmful when the player does not expect it to activate.

The trick here in this game is to do something that *looks* harmless, but is something else that you would Think.
For example "leap of faith" traps (Power, toggle, electricfloor, trapdoor) that instead are deadly traps that activate unexpectly if the trap is not correctly defused with a button or something elsewhere.

You can do it with cats and/or dogs, that move on switches, or use Clocks, that "Count" the steps and then activate the trap permanently.

Because, as soon as a player stumbles upon something that looks harmful, they will immediately use Tools on that. But if they stumble upon something that looks completely harmless, for example a standard commit gate, they will not bother wasting Tools on that. (until they would need to pass the commit gate in the "wrong" direction).
If the commit gate instead activates by a Clock or dog or cat or something similiar, then player will be unaware of that and move on, to only get killed by a "inactive" commit gate which activated Before the player even reached the trigger sticking button.

Agree. There should be a limitation of number of Tools.

Or a easy fix would be to add "Wired Concrete Wall", same as Wired Wooden Wall but needs explosives to be taken care of. Cost could be 3 times normal Concrete like cost for Wooden Wired Wall is 3 times normal Wooden Wall.

Then it would be prohibilitively expensive to bruteforce a house since you would need 100s of explosives to succeed. You would instead need to figure out a good bruteforce, for example just bruteforcing through a closed door or something like that.

I suggested in the Steam forums that you should be able to select if you want to commit to a house or not when you reach the Vault during self-test.
Eg:

Reach exit = You go back to edit mode without being billed.
Reach vault = "Do you want to commit to this house? [Yes] [No]"
[Yes] = Go to house list - you are billed for the materials.
[No] = You go back to edit mode without being billed.

Jason said it was a good idea.

I got this idea so you don't actually have to remove all commit gates to the exit, you just have to "un-danger" the trap you are currently working with, then you can push to the safe regardless of trap is in working condition or not. And fix it without being double-billed for the materials.

No. Im not talking about blocking alt-accounts on same IP. (Jason said that he want the experience of sitting at Starbucks or library and "It was YOU that robbed me")
Just that they share same Chills, which means they can still rob each other and collaborate, its just that if they trigger a chill, they can't just circumvent the chill by logging a alt account. And once they "infect" the IP with a chill, any new accounts on that IP will get same chills (of course with correct time counters) so they cant "ooh, need to change IP"... because then its too late.

About unique names: I don't Think it would take any server space. Generate the name "live" instead. Eg something like GenerateName(AccountID, TargetAccountID) and that is executed anytime we want to have a name.
So AccountID is then the robber browsing house list, and TargetAccountID is the house that is about to be displayed in list.

No, 4 saws, 4 drugged meat. I had my wife just at the door.
He just drugged the commit pitbull and then Went for the safe, and then ignored the safe completely.

largestherb: He meant that he want to do a wired wall that seem to connect a Power source and stepping plate to lets say a door, to lure the user into pressing the button, but the button instead activates a trap.

One thing that I would want to have, is the possibility to select if I want to commit to house or not, if I reach the vault during a self-test.

So if I do a "fake self-test" (eg I replaced some traps with lights to test), I don't have to replace every commit gate I know its working (used correctly).

Eg:
Reaching door -> Self-test is aborted and you get back to edit mode.
Reaching vault -> A dialog appears: "Do you want to commit to this house"
[Yes] -> House is saved and pushed to list, and you get billed.
[No] -> Self-test is aborted and you get back to edit mode.

Then I only need to non-lethal the trap im currently working on, I don't need to non-lethal all previous traps in house.

Currently, If I non-lethal the trap im currently working on, and find out that it is buggy, If I don't have non-lethal all other traps, im forced to commit to the house (reach the vault) and its billed for the materials. If I then fix the trap, im billed for the materials once more.