Discuss the massively-multiplayer home defense game.
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I think the root of the problem was just that you could get 5X the bounty money for the investment of tools. For example, a house has 1 family member to easily club. With that, for a 200$ investment you can produce a 1k bounty. Assuming you could find 10 easy clubbings, that is 10k with just the starting money alone. On the other hand, if for every tool spent it only added the same value of bounty, there would be no point in clubbing to add bounty for a money transfer.
I'm a bit worried about some of the proposed changes. Additionally, I don't quite understand many of the proposals.
I think that duel accounts are totally overstated, but I believe Jason is correct in pointing out that the bounty system is the biggest problem when it comes to free money. The only thing I don' agree with is that it is free money. I often focus a life on just bounty to see how high I can make it & it is not easy. First of all, every time you go clubbing, you put yourself at risk. Also, you will quickly wipe out any completely unprotected family. At this point, it costs more money and is more risky. Usually when I go broke I just gift the bounty to some lucky house (with at least some defence).
If anything, I think just make sure you cannot hit the same vault more than once every 24 hours. Additionally, lower the murder bounty to like 200 each. That way you only get 200$ added to your bounty for each killed. Since the tool you spend to add that bounty costs at least 200$, it isn't worth an investment for use in money transfer. Seriously, the problem is that it is like 1k per killed, so you can hit a 2k house and make a bounty of 3500. I have gifted 30k bounties before in just a few hours starting from 2k, but eventually I die in the process. If it was 200 per killed, a 2k house would be worth less bounty than cash stolen from it.
There has to be a part 4 because I see nothing about the diabolical 512 step clock that made so many believe they were trapped; however, although created by a mad scientist, Harris saw right through it with a stroke of brilliance. Mr. Brit honestly never expected anybody to figure it out so easily. Sadly for Mr. Brit, it was the only thing he had left in life. Determined to end it all, he hung himself in the cat room next where the rest of his family and so many others met their fate.
yeah you move your vault or something from its normal position? That looked super easy. You should beef up the magic dance a little so people cannot accidently solve it.
hah that was fun. Is it the one with the cat room?
haha I got the top house now with like 4,000$ and a painting that was stolen from me several lives ago. Just see if you can get that back from my house fortress
I'm not sure i'd change that aspect of it myself.
I rarely run into situations where I wish I had wires in wife path. What might be better is to have an inverted panic button. That actually would increase family ability to interact and solve the situation where you want to send power across without blocking them.
The crazy thing is without even seeing the house that was robbed, just by reading this thread I know EXACTLY which house we are talking about. The reason for this is because it a design that seems to have been used and improved upon over and over.
Did he come in with the exact tools just after a different person found his way to the vault? You realize he may have hit that house under previous lives and mapped out the house on castle draft, having an idea of what types of traps to expect.
aaah okay so the top dog wiped the floor with my 33$ house. First he came in with his filthy riches and assassinated my wife for like 16.5$ cash. The robber cut the exact wired wooden wall that would disable my robot. Secondly, he ran all around my yard; it was classic scoundrel. At this point, I was hoping my robot would get him but he put WATER on the robot, making it rust. THEN he returned later with more clubs for my children and a ladder. After all this he didn't even take my vault - he danced around it celebrating the destruction of my home. He didn't even solve my combo lock properly, he just used a ladder to climb in and saw his way to my vault.
I then proceded to his house with no tools/money and died n the same damn tile I always do!
Is this what happened to all the other houses?
haha ya gotta love this game
And now even richer!!
what happened?
I did find the vault but I didn't know the significance of the bottom button to enable the last gate. I always assumed that the buttons on the right side were a combo lock that would power it ( because wires travel across the hallway). The only thing I ever got was paintings, but then I returned to suicide in your house hoping to re-steal the bounty, but then the house was very broken.
That is one serious advantage to this house is, once robbed it is extremely broken and requires lots more brute force. On the other hand, the vault is only 1 wood and 1 explosive at the enterance (who would have thought)
GotABigTrap wrote:haha that was fast. That should have been more reinforced but I didn't like doing the self test because it would take forever. lol.
I liked your place, and wanted to solve it legit, but my final run was tooled just because I didn't want to die from cops.
I'm also so glad that the steel was only 5 thick! That was pure luck!
yeah I knew it was going to fall soon! I've seen a few people discover that the door eventually opens. basically you have to run back and forth counting steps to do it. If you try to step just back and forth you'd never make it because the cops will get you. It would take me about 15 mins to do it running back and forth like 100 times and then a few steps right next to the door. Nobody has made it past the 2nd room and only got past the first because the cats got stuck in the door.
I think you had figured it was a clock so you knew that there was very likely a clock exactly 7 steel up! It would have been smarter for me to move more of the components around to make it require a certain amount of brute force from any direction of attempt.
haha that was fast. That should have been more reinforced but I didn't like doing the self test because it would take forever. lol.
hhaha your vault was really there? God I kept going straight down and fiddling with the bottom hallway area. I really thought the vault was behind the powered door to the bottom left.
I kept going back with ladder/brick but you are telling me I could have easily done it with 1 wirecutter?! nevermind I see that wouldn't work.
And three saws still gets you past the door, ignoring the combo.
I just wanted to show a combo lock that separated pairs of buttons. that is a pretty easy problem to fix
GotABigTrap wrote:http://castledraft.com/editor/B3asPu
this isn't scary at all but they wont' know if they got it right until they commit and to go bak they must break it. Tons of combinations and less than 2k
Unfortunately that's paper-thin. Also not really sure what's with that hanging power supply and inverted switch leading off to nothing.
Mind you, I'm talking about deterring 2k tool loads while also only having 2k to work with. Of course I've had some of my earlier designs brute-forced in ways I wouldn't have ever tried myself, so I've been adapting my builds to compensate for what the popular tool choices seem to be.
well to fix it a little. But I would like to point out that there is some innovation here. This lock benefits by pairing the buttons but then separating the pairs by a wooden wired wall. Variations of this can increase the number of bits and the number of saws required to see the entire combination. Optimally, you could make the number of wooden planks as deep as the number of pairs. 2k of saws won't get you more than half the combination.
Add a commit to the start and it will work much better. Honestly though 3 buttons is very easy to guess because your chance is like 1/6.
http://castledraft.com/editor/B3asPu
this isn't scary at all but they wont' know if they got it right until they commit and to go bak they must break it. Tons of combinations and less than 2k
which is yours iceman? That explains where all his money went. I was so close to nabbing his vault before he spent it but I was too late.
haha what happened to the money? I found the vault and was planning on coming back with a ladder! Yeah I totally was sick of having a good house sitting there doing nothing so I decided to go raiding houses.
how was it so easy? What am I missing?
can we talk about the mechanics of gas? It looks ot me like you have built a giant gas maze where there are many deadly paths and only one safe path. how is it rigged to prevent brute force?
A wiki page describing the various mechanics of the new tiles and tools would probably help FT a bit...
here's all I know so far
* Electric mice run around somewhat like cats.
* Gas machine kills u but you can shoot it with gun
* CAD is a lot like a dog when powered, however you cannot shoot it, but you can torch it with the blowtorch I think (but only 1 tile away)
That is about all I know - yeah I don't know much.
the top house right now with the electric mouse puzzle?
lol I solved one of those electric men houses and it was incredibly easy, landing me like 15k or so. put a new house up enjoy!