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#51 2014-09-30 08:39:49

cullman
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Registered: 2014-03-21
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Re: House just got hacked

No new info here, but I'm planning on fixing this issue in Terminal Heist.  I am also planning on trying to detect when someone is trying to macro their house off the list....it may be as simple as making them answer a captcha type question (probably not a captcha, cause i hate those, but maybe a simple math question) every 15-30 minutes that they are editing also I am hoping to end disconnect scouting by having the clients send their moves up the server as they happen.  I think we also have a good strategy to make it very hard for people to grab the whole maps through the client, but I think we can make it hard enough that they'd be better off trying to hack a bank or something with their time.

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#52 2014-09-30 08:47:14

thoth
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Re: House just got hacked

one way to do it, although cpu and network intensive, would be to have the client send the move and only then does the server send back the revealed tiles, although pretty intense it's less than an FPS probably generates in traffic and cpu.

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#53 2014-09-30 09:41:15

eppfel
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Re: House just got hacked

New infos here!

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#54 2014-09-30 17:40:05

zak2oo
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Registered: 2014-09-20
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Re: House just got hacked

Woahhh thats my house bro's thats posted on the first page and i did not cheat i walked into a unattended house and grabbed a wife and vault thats all i came on to see if we had caught the cheater yet.

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#55 2014-09-30 17:52:17

eppfel
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Re: House just got hacked

If you have been Mr. Tate, then I'm sry for accusing you and trashing your place so hard. But I would have gone exact the same way even without the map AMWhy shared.

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#56 2014-09-30 18:49:51

zak2oo
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Re: House just got hacked

no problem man i just didnt want people think i was a cheat. i had no paintings either im sure you noticed... another guy said went in and  took all his i was like wtf lol.

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#57 2014-09-30 23:11:08

cullman
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Re: House just got hacked

thoth wrote:

one way to do it, although cpu and network intensive, would be to have the client send the move and only then does the server send back the revealed tiles, although pretty intense it's less than an FPS probably generates in traffic and cpu.

Thoth, that was my thinking originally. Have you seen this?

But now my thinking is lock it down another way and maybe save the server side for real money realms or tournaments.

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#58 2014-10-04 09:57:52

Passive
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Registered: 2014-09-18
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Re: House just got hacked

Getting pretty annoyed again. This is part of my house:

a6SKXLm.png

6 choices, 5 death 1 life. Yet so far people keep just picking the life every time. I then changed which door was life and again first robber went straight to the right door. Am i missing something? Is it really obvious which is the right door?

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#59 2014-10-04 10:34:16

thoth
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Re: House just got hacked

@cullman no I have not, but I have now, that is pretty sweet.

@Passive 1 in 5 is no big deal, it was the one where he got my 1 in 524,288 that I was certain it was a hacker (there was an 8 bit lock and an 11-bit combo lock that he danced through with no tools)

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#60 2014-10-04 14:40:31

Passive
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Re: House just got hacked

それはトラップである wrote:
Passive wrote:

Getting pretty annoyed again. This is part of my house:

http://i.imgur.com/a6SKXLm.png

6 choices, 5 death 1 life. Yet so far people keep just picking the life every time. I then changed which door was life and again first robber went straight to the right door. Am i missing something? Is it really obvious which is the right door?

Carefully check what is visible on the tapes. There may be a tipper. Can't tell from the image given.

Yea i tried that, but they all have the same thing on the tile behind the door so really dunno what could be givign it way :S

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#61 2014-10-04 17:45:18

AMWhy
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Re: House just got hacked

I haven't been in this house, but for me to guess, from the top I'd say the safe path is not the first, or last.  Unlikely to be the 5th or 2nd.  Most likely to be the fourth.  Of course, this all depends on the location of this corridor in your house: if it's in the lower section, door 5 becomes more likely, for example.

Having said all this, it is still a 1 in 6 gamble that I wouldn't risk my house on without tools, unlike Mr Allen R Crist, who waltzed through my house for just 3.5k on his first ever visit straight after another visitor died after spying the safe *cough-two-account-abuser-cough*

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#62 2014-10-04 23:24:25

Passive
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Re: House just got hacked

I think at the time of this screen shot it was door 2. But it has also been door 1, 3, 4, ,5 big_smile Door 5 seems to be the "easiest" to "guess" as people see the fire floor round a corner and just pick the last door they went past big_smile

One thing that is odd is that to get to that bit there is two commits with powered doors, last 10 visitors no one has even thought of going through the one that doesn't lead to this corridor :S

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#63 2014-10-05 07:52:50

Passive
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Re: House just got hacked

AMWhy wrote:

Having said all this, it is still a 1 in 6 gamble that I wouldn't risk my house on without tools, unlike Mr Allen R Crist, who waltzed through my house for just 3.5k on his first ever visit straight after another visitor died after spying the safe *cough-two-account-abuser-cough*

So yet again i had someone just walked straight through the right door which is starting to make it seem pointless to even have all the traps as no one has died to them. That guy then gets to safe hangs themselves and next video is A R Crist walking straight in to get the loot. Clearly using 2nd account, really lame.

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#64 2014-10-05 08:29:09

Passive
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Re: House just got hacked

それはトラップである wrote:

Carefully check what is visible on the tapes. There may be a tipper. Can't tell from the image given.

Here is the last tape. Got so wound up that my house is pretty much pointless that i found and download a video recorder just to upload the tape to see if anyone can shed so light on why my house is so weak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcQ0Oq46agA

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#65 2014-10-05 17:19:52

AMWhy
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Re: House just got hacked

Unfortunately your video says private when I click on it.  It seems one of the old dual-account cheaters has returned.  Lord of Ham?

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#66 2014-10-05 20:01:37

AMWhy
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Re: House just got hacked

Allen R Crist just robbed me again.  He doesn't know the solution, but knew the exact tools to bring that the previous failant couldn't (more than 2k worth).  New route, he'd never been in before, but he knew where the safe was and how to get to it.
Once, suspicious.
Twice, a likely cheat.
Three times, confirmed.

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#67 2014-10-06 00:08:21

Passive
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Re: House just got hacked

AMWhy wrote:

Allen R Crist just robbed me again.  He doesn't know the solution, but knew the exact tools to bring that the previous failant couldn't (more than 2k worth).  New route, he'd never been in before, but he knew where the safe was and how to get to it.
Once, suspicious.
Twice, a likely cheat.
Three times, confirmed.


Yea.

On a side note i think (if your Hog) I just did you house big_smile Then suicide with wire cutters and others bits (so you know if it was me)

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#68 2014-10-06 01:18:16

AMWhy
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Re: House just got hacked

Ah, that was you!  A temporary vault place while I make repairs, I'm afraid.  Not the final placement.

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#69 2014-10-06 01:20:33

Passive
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Re: House just got hacked

AMWhy wrote:

Ah, that was you!  A temporary vault place while I make repairs, I'm afraid.  Not the final placement.

You were very close to being unchilled, but now it has changed sad Almost cracked anderson, only to read the instructions for a different house when he became unchilled (doh)

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#70 2014-10-06 01:27:34

AMWhy
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Re: House just got hacked

I just changed it up - good timing, by the sound of it!  It's still a long way from finished, but is starting to take shape.

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#71 2014-10-06 02:09:40

Passive
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Re: House just got hacked

AMWhy wrote:

I just changed it up - good timing, by the sound of it!  It's still a long way from finished, but is starting to take shape.

Wish it was easier to share replays, as you just poked you nose in my new house, and with visibility on it looks very funny. You looking at the commit trap i copied from you, all the time with the safe behind the door just beyond it big_smile (I have since robbed some $$ so it is a lot more impressive now big_smile)

Edit:

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Edit:
Stop teasing me それはトラップである, every time i see your name on the tapes list i hope you have made a mistake and died big_smile

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#72 2014-10-06 08:18:10

AMWhy
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Re: House just got hacked

Haha! If only I'd known.

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