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#1 2014-02-18 14:29:33
- Jabloko
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Empty vault trap
Ooooookay, so I'm kinda angry now.
I wander into little fella's lair, and I find his vault nice and exposed, however, behind a commit gate. Little me laughing rushes for the vault and...nothing. I'm standing right in front of the actual vault itself, stuck, forced to suicide/jump on the hot floor.
I DON'T think this should be a feature. Even if it's empty, it should at least resolve the house. Needless to say, I just dumped a house that I've been building for a looong time.
Anyone agree?
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#2 2014-02-18 14:32:32
- TheRealCheese
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Re: Empty vault trap
The vault sprite shows that it's been forced open, meaning that it is empty. Like any death in this game, users own fault.
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#3 2014-02-18 14:45:30
- Jabloko
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Re: Empty vault trap
I couldn't see because it was one move down in an alley. I hovered my mouse over it, but it said nothing, only when it was too late. It was NOT my fault. This is probably a bug or a very silly feature. Imagine resolving the whole thing, only to find that it's trololo, empty. Even if that's exactly what Jason wanted, it's just plain stupid.
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#4 2014-02-18 15:20:49
- largestherb
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Re: Empty vault trap
empty vault at the end of a complex puzzle is the ultimate troll and i love it.
but empty vault in plain sight is sweet, sweet deliciousness. you should have been more suspicious!
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#5 2014-02-18 15:22:46
- Jabloko
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Re: Empty vault trap
It was a noob-home, just somebody got there first. All it's made of were 4 commit gates, but you could see behind one of them that there was a vault there, but you couldn't see if it was empty or not.
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#6 2014-02-18 15:47:15
- largestherb
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Re: Empty vault trap
should've left yourself an escape route!
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#7 2014-02-18 20:10:47
- protox13
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Re: Empty vault trap
On the plus side, your post has inspired me to finally choose an avatar which, somehow, no one's picked yet...
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#8 2014-02-18 20:58:01
- 42dustman
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Re: Empty vault trap
I agree. If you can teleport out of the home by finding a full vault then there's no reason not to teleport out of it by finding an empty vault.
Self-testing is torture.
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#9 2014-02-18 21:07:02
- protox13
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I agree. If you can teleport out of the home by finding a full vault then there's no reason not to teleport out of it by finding an empty vault.
I suppose the point is to add risk and uncertainty to a robbery. Remember, Jason's theme in making this game was to never make you feel safe...
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#10 2014-02-20 06:38:37
- TyrannosaurusHax
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Re: Empty vault trap
The dev loves this mechanic. Don't expect anything douchey or unfair about this game's design to change because that's the way he likes it.
It's overall a good game in spite of such things in my opinion. That said I don't think plot holes are a valid reason to change mechanics =d
But yes, if you ever commit to possibly not being able to reach the welcome mat or a rob-able vault you're risking everything.
It's very guide dang it but technically nothing in this game is explained so the empty vault mechanic is arguably not exceptional in that way.
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#11 2014-02-20 07:19:13
- RevealingGekco
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Re: Empty vault trap
If tool-carrying robbers die w/ a broken safe in play... does the safe still get the tools? If it does, wouldn't it be possible for a house to get to a state where the safe is broken w/ tools in it, the family is dead and the house is unsolvable?
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#12 2014-02-20 07:24:07
- colorfusion
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Re: Empty vault trap
If tool-carrying robbers die w/ a broken safe in play... does the safe still get the tools? If it does, wouldn't it be possible for a house to get to a state where the safe is broken w/ tools in it, the family is dead and the house is unsolvable?
The vault gets the tools, but the vault becomes unbroken as it now has money/tools in it. You also couldn't get a house with both a dead family and broken vault on the list.
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