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#1 2014-02-22 08:02:19
- Leaf
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AI Dungeon Solver
To learn, or to get money (I'm not sure you want to award money from an NPC situation), you should develop some sort of AI Dungeon Solver.
So, you can pick Easy, Intermediate, or Hard, and the computer will build a solvable dungeon for you. At that point you get 10 minutes to solve the dungeon. The difference? You will not have tools AND you will see the entire dungeon screen lit up.
There should be a small reward for solving it, and no penalty for losing- except it should not be repeatable instantly.
This will familiarize players with popular patterns, combinations, and enable them to understand better methodologies for making/breaking traps. As it is right now, when you're starting out- it's damn difficult.
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#2 2014-02-22 08:21:54
- MMaster
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Re: AI Dungeon Solver
It's not that easy to do and to teach it "popular" patterns. People learn and figure out things that are based on popular patterns, but work differently. But I think some very basic "dungeons" with dogs and some commit gates should be doable. If someone is up to the task I would be willing to put something like that to the community server.
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#3 2014-02-22 09:27:04
- Archonn
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Re: AI Dungeon Solver
A AI house creator would be really hard to create, and im not sure how good the houses would be. Creating a house involves a certain amount of creativity after all
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#4 2014-02-22 09:36:58
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Re: AI Dungeon Solver
Nifty idea... but couldn't you also learn popular patterns from reading threads in the forum/the wiki?
There is also the tried and true method of dying to other people's devious creations and stealing them for yourself, watching other robbers bypass your implementation and making improvements.
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#5 2014-02-22 09:50:11
Re: AI Dungeon Solver
You could probably make a (very ineffective) dungeon house creator through something similar to Spelunky's level generator. You have "modules", each of which is a trap, with a given entrance or exit, and then you connect the entrances.
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#6 2014-02-22 10:14:19
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Re: AI Dungeon Solver
You could probably make a (very ineffective) dungeon house creator through something similar to Spelunky's level generator. You have "modules", each of which is a trap, with a given entrance or exit, and then you connect the entrances.
Yes. That's what I was thinking. It is possible to create maze generator and put some commit gates with dogs there. Anything more than that would be too hard to do. Computer designing some creative traps is really hard task to do.
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#7 2014-02-22 11:07:08
- JoyOfTrapping
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Re: AI Dungeon Solver
There should be a small reward for solving it, and no penalty for losing-
You can't hope for a way to minimize risk in this game other than by applying your own intellect and caution.
This will familiarize players with popular patterns, combinations, and enable them to understand better methodologies for making/breaking traps. As it is right now, when you're starting out- it's damn difficult.
It is difficult. If you want to learn traps, you need to learn about them by encountering them in the homes of other living players who created them. You have to expose yourself to them, and that involves risk. The reward is an improvement in your own self-control, and your own knowledge and skill.
Just keep ramming into the brick wall of the learning curve head on. Go out there and be a samurai and earn your knowledge through battle, honor, and blood. You will be a great player in the long run with this approach.
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#8 2014-02-22 12:45:52
- 42dustman
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Re: AI Dungeon Solver
Hmm... The trailer for the game uses the fact that nothing in CD is random as a sale point so I guess Jason doing something like this is pretty unlikely.
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#9 2014-02-22 12:53:23
- StefanLindskog
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[off-topic]: Is the voice in the trailer Jason himself?
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#10 2014-02-22 13:08:48
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Re: AI Dungeon Solver
I just got perfect idea thanks to this topic.
I will make 'dungeons' to the community server that won't be solvable without tools and it will basically be just mazes with pitbulls and vault at the end. The money in the vault would be proportional to number of pitbulls in dungeon so there would be more pitbulls than it's worth to kill/put asleep. And as soon as 'dungeon' vault would be reached new one would be generated.
That will make some fun for the small number of players and it will be interesting money source that is still dangerous. I'm just not sure how to put it into the games theme.
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#11 2014-02-22 22:22:36
- Lord0fHam
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Re: AI Dungeon Solver
I just got perfect idea thanks to this topic.
I will make 'dungeons' to the community server that won't be solvable without tools and it will basically be just mazes with pitbulls and vault at the end. The money in the vault would be proportional to number of pitbulls in dungeon so there would be more pitbulls than it's worth to kill/put asleep. And as soon as 'dungeon' vault would be reached new one would be generated.
That will make some fun for the small number of players and it will be interesting money source that is still dangerous. I'm just not sure how to put it into the games theme.
Sounds cool, but why would anyone do them if you just lose money?
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#12 2014-02-23 09:05:13
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Re: AI Dungeon Solver
MMaster wrote:I just got perfect idea thanks to this topic.
I will make 'dungeons' to the community server that won't be solvable without tools and it will basically be just mazes with pitbulls and vault at the end. The money in the vault would be proportional to number of pitbulls in dungeon so there would be more pitbulls than it's worth to kill/put asleep. And as soon as 'dungeon' vault would be reached new one would be generated.
That will make some fun for the small number of players and it will be interesting money source that is still dangerous. I'm just not sure how to put it into the games theme.Sounds cool, but why would anyone do them if you just lose money?
The idea is that you don't have to kill all the dogs in order to get to the vault. So the less dogs you kill the more profit you would have.
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